YOP091: Dream Think Do with Mitch Matthews

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Bio: Mitch Matthews is a keynote speaker, success coach and best-selling author.

He speaks to student, corporate, non-profit and association audiences around the world on the power of “DREAM. THINK. DO.”

In 2006, Mitch started something he called the “BIG Dream Gathering.” Originally, it was supposed to be something his friends and family could do for a few hours to get clear on their dreams, but this simple concept became a movement that hasn’t stopped since! Thousands of dreams have been launched as a result!

He’s become a well-respected thought leader on coaching and work-place mentoring. Plus, he has created a coach-training program that has been utilized around the globe.

You can listen to Mitch on his popular weekly podcast called, “DREAM. THINK. DO.” on iTunes, where he inspires people around the world to dream bigger, think better and do more.

Mitch proudly lives a “highly-caffeinated” lifestyle in Des Moines, Iowa with his wife and their two sons.

Find out more at http://mitchmatthews.com/


Zephan: Good morning everyone, this is Zephan Moses Blaxberg from the Year of Purpose podcast, and today I’m joined by Mitch Matthews. Mitch is a keynote speaker, success coach and bestselling author. He speaks to student, corporate, nonprofit, and association audiences around the world on the power of Dream Think Do. In 2006, Mitch started something he called the Big Dream Gathering. Originally, it was supposed to be something his friends and family could do for a few hours to get clear on their dreams but this simple concept became a movement that hasn’t stopped since. Thousands of dreams have been launched as a result.


He’s become a well-respected thought leader on coaching and workplace mentoring, plus he’s created a coach-training program that has been utilized around the globe. You can listen to Mitch on his popular weekly podcast called Dream Think Do on iTunes, and you can also listen to him right here, today, on the Year of Purpose podcast. What’s going on, Mitch?


Mitch: Thank you so much, Zeph! That’s awesome, buddy. I appreciate that. Great to be here!


Zephan: Yeah man, I left out the highly-caffeinated part, so I’m going to say to everybody tuning in right now, his bio also says “Mitch proudly lives a highly caffeinated lifestyle in Des Moines, Iowa.” So, I just had to add that in there, because


Mitch: I appreciate that, because it’s true. And very accurate for today. So I love it.


Zephan: I actually got into this Yerba Mate tea recently—and I’m like a huge coffee guy, I do my bulletproof coffee quite often, but trying some different stuff just to see—


Mitch: It’s always good, and especially since we’re talking caffeine. And I know, I’ve got a number of friends that are just complete health nuts, and you know, I kind of exercise and do a lot of different things, I try to eat right, but I told them, “You know what, caffeine, I just enjoy it. It’s God’s gift to us and so that’s, that’s just not something I’m gonna eliminate.” I’ll experiment, but the day’s long with it, but I’m not gonna eliminate it.


Zephan: Good stuff. Well I am energized, I’m ready to go it’s, you know, the time of recording this coming off of a book launch, a best-seller book launch, it’s crazy—


Mitch: Yeah, I was gonna say, that needs to be called a bestseller book launch. That’s—you hit it out of the park, man! Congratulations on that.


Zephan: Yeah, we’re starting 2018 with a bang, and, you know, it’s great to be starting with you. This is my first recording in 2018, so thank you for being here and—


Mitch: Absolutely. I’m kind of excited, wanted to just get to talk with you because I love your work, but also we were joking before we hit record that, you know, there’s a certain thing like jet lag, you know, you go to Australia, come back, and experience jet lag. But there’s also something called, you know, book launch lag, that it’s something similar to your brain, so I’m kind of curious just to see what comes out of this interview. We might go a lot of different places because of that.


Zephan: Yeah, so if I slur my words, you guys can’t touch me here. But let’s dive in! I mean, I was reading a lot about you, and your story starts at quite a young age, actually. You know, I thought that I was starting young, but man, I looked at when you started doing a lot of this stuff, and you started from like 11 or 12 years old working in a bike store, right?


Mitch: Well yeah, I’ve been weird from an early age, but I can tell you that I did not have the best seller at 26, so kudos to you, man. But yeah, I’ve always been weird, a bit of an extreme personality, and I very early on, at about 10 or 11, kind of fell in love with bikes, and so I thought my dream job was to own a bike shop. And I grew up in a really small town in Iowa, and there was 1 bike shop, and it was on the corner, 2 blocks off of our square, and it was in a hole in a wall kind of place. The Goodwill store was next door and the strip club was behind it.


But I set my sights on that and basically every day in the summer when I was 12 I rode my bike up to the bike shop and spent 2-3, sometimes 5-6-7 hours a day hanging out trying to help. I’d take out the trash, I’d move stuff around, I’d wipe things down, I’d do whatever I could just to not get arrested for loitering. And at the end of that summer, they decided to hire me, which I so appreciated, and—so I’m proud to say at 13 I had my first dream job but it was because I was willing to stalk the owner, you know, at scary levels, but yeah, at 13 I had my first dream job. And at 14 they took me to a sales seminar and so, after that, I had a new dream job because I realized, “my gosh, what’s this, what’s this industry, what’s this you know, kind of career?” and so my first dream led to that dream job or at least that course for the dream job so… yeah, I kind of started at a young age, and it’s paying off!


Zephan: Well, it’s really cool how that dream expands, too! You know, as you learn more about what was possible and your awareness grew you started to realize that the dream could be bigger than where it was when you first started, right, like, in the dream obviously isn’t just, you know, to run that bike shop anymore, and you’ve done things that are, you know, a thousand times bigger than that!



Mitch: Yeah, and I think that’s one of the things that’s misunderstood about pursuing dreams, especially when we talk about dream jobs. That I think there’s this… kind of, misconception, that there’s only one dream job, like if you ask somebody what’s your dream job, they think, so many people lock up, because they think they got to, it’s like I can just pick one. And that’s gonna be my one thing. And I’ve realized, and also done over a hundred interviews with people who have achieved what they would call their dream jobs. And we identified their dream jobs as either doing work that they love, or doing work that allows you to do something you love, and I’ve you know had this experience and all the people I’ve talked with as well have had this experience that usually what it is is it’s deciding what’s the dream job for the season.


What’s the dream job for the season and giving yourself permission to pursue that, to explore that experiment with that and find that and then also continue to stay open to what’s that next dream job. And you know, it’s not about changing jobs every six months, but it’s about being on a course of discovery and that journey of continuing to uncover those things and it’s amazing, you know, what each season has brought up and you know, there’s been some low times as well, but, you know, I think you’re on that same course! You’ve continued to dig in, you’ve figured out what your passions, are, where your talents, are, where those things line up, but you got clear on your why and man, everything else kind of falling into place!


Zephan: Oh, absolutely, I mean, it’s crazy to see how the dominoes fall and I really like that you made this distinction of you can, you know, do the work that you love, but you can also do work that allows to do the things that you love. This is actually something that was huge for me, probably about year/ year & a half ago I read a book called Vagabonding and it’s kind of this art form of long-term travel around the world. And one of the big things that were brought up in that book was that, you know, you can come home and work a job for six months and know that it’s your means to an end, you know, it’s your method of saving up the money you need if your dream is to travel the world.


And I think that it’s—you brought up a really important point there that, you know, I think you can really love something if it allows you to do the things that you really want to do. Right, like, it’s still a job, at the end of the day, it’s still you might have to report to someone else, you might have to show up 9:00 to 5:00 Monday through Friday but it’s allowing you to live the lifestyle that you really want. I think that’s such an important, you know, differentiator between that and having a job that you love cause both of them are great but I think that there’s an option that people sometime forget.


Mitch: Absolutely! And I know that for me personally, you know, I’ve had some peaks and valleys, I’ve had what I call bridge jobs, which are those jobs that get you from one place to the next, but just kind of like a bridge, you wouldn’t wanna live there, you can appreciate a bridge for what it is, but it’s not a home, right? I’ve had some bridge jobs, and when you’re in those bridge jobs, you wanna focus on what you can learn, what you can earn, and who you can meet all of those things. And one of my particular bridge jobs was—I was in the pharmaceutical industries, and a number of those opportunities that I had there were great fits, but one in particular was a really bad fit.


But I used that as kind of an incentive to really get me on this course of starting our first organization, our own company, all of those things, and so what I started to appreciate, although that job was a bad fit, I didn’t really like what I was doing, you know, the company, there were some frustrations with the company, but I could still sit there with a big goofy grin on my face and still deliver excellence, at the same time, knowing because your one of the biggest things this was also taking care of my family and funding me, but it also give me some flexibility, so I could do what I wanna do on the side. And so that’s what I found with a lot of people that sometimes, you know, kind of pays for you to be able to live, while you’re doing a side hustle, you know, and kind of maybe growing something on the side. But one of the other things I found where there are certain people, where their day job, they’re good at it, they’re passionate, relatively passionate about it.


But you know, one of my favorite interviews from Dream Think Do was an extreme swimmer, a guy named Kevin Hawe, a guy who lives out in San Francisco. He’s a corporate attorney, really is very good at what he does, all of those things, but his true passion is extreme swimming. Now, you can’t really make money off of extreme swimming, but I’ll give you an idea of what this guy does. Extreme swimming is like, for me to go swimming a couple of laps at the pool at the Y, that’s extreme swimming, right? But for Kevin Hawe, he lives in San Francisco, so like most people would, you know, say extreme swimming would to take a boat out to Alcatraz and swim back. I mean, that’s high grade, you know, high risk kind of swimming. Kevin, without a wetsuit, will actually swim out from the dock, swim out to Alcatraz, swim around Alcatraz, and then swim back. Yeah.


Zephan: Wow.


Mitch: And I mean, I’m talking about waters of 40-50-60 degrees, and he’s able to do this. He loves it. So he’ll go and do things like that 2-3 times a week, right? And it’s one of those things that he’s very good at what he does, but a big part of, you know, why his current job is a dream job is that it allows him to do, you know, the extreme swimming! Something he’s really passionate about. So, you know, on those, those the part of the job that we call the 20% the suck factor, and that’s, you know, anybody, anybody that I’ve talked with that’ve had, quote-unquote, dream jobs, there’s usually something that’s there, and, and, we say if you can hit that 20% mark, if your suck factor is 20% or less, you’re probably in a dream job, meaning 20% or less of what you do you don’t really like or is not your favorite. You know, that’s probably a dream job, and it’s one of those that you could put up with a whole lot of that 20% suck factor if you’re able to do those things either in the work you love or outside of the work you love.


Zephan: Yeah, I mean I think that’s a pretty good place to be, we’ve all heard of the 80-20 principle once. I would say if you could love 80% of it and embrace the suck, embrace the 20% of it, that’s always been one of my mottoes. I’m a rower, so anytime we’re in a tough spot, kind of like my internal voice just goes “C’mon, embrace the suck, let’s go!”


Mitch: I love that! I think that’s awesome! When I think that’s also a misconception, though, is I think a lot of people, you know, people that I think it’s sad, but I think a lot of people even hear the concept of a dream job, as an example, and they wanna poo-poo it, right? I’ve got a grumpy uncle, and if I throw out the concept of a dream job, I hear guffaws, and scoffing, eye roll, and all those things. But I think what is sad is that I do think that concept is something we should aspire to. We were put here for a reason, to do amazing things, so that, that would equate to being a dream job, we’re getting to walk those things out that’s a dream job, but I think, as people start to grasp that and maybe even to start to attain that, I think sometimes they think, well, if I don’t love everything within it, then this isn’t my dream job yet.


And I always loved to talk through that, make people aware of that, because, there’s gonna be something you don’t enjoy doing, like as an entrepreneur for over a decade, like I love so many aspects of this adventure, but I hate tax stuff, right? I mean, I just hate it. I don’t… I mean, I’ve got a great accountant, a great tax guy, all that stuff, but that stuff just kind of bothers me, right? It’s in my suck factor, but that’s okay, because it’s less than 20%. We can be real strategic, I’ll turn it into a game, all of that kind of stuff, but, you know, that’s one of the things I try to encourage people on, is that no job’s gonna be perfect, I think that’s all something we can understand, but to be able to say, “All right, how do you continue to diminish that 20% or less,” you know, all of that. So I love the “embrace the suck”. I think that’s great.


Zephan: And so I have a question about that in a second, but first I had to mention, I went to San Francisco, about a year ago, and I remember, I, you know, like visiting the fisherman’s wharf and Pier 39, and, you know, just where the boat takes off to take you over to Alcatraz. We did that ride too, but we’re sitting there, on one of the docks, and I see these people that are just walking down into the water, and going out for a swim. I mean, most of them are wearing sweat suits, but I–swimsuits, but I’m just thinking, these guys are crazy!


Mitch: Yeah, some of them, and it’s, it’s amazing, you know, that people can check out the episode, it’s a fascinating and inspiring episode, but there’s a club, and basically one of the challenges of the club is that you’re supposed to, you get a trophy, or you get a plaque on a trophy if you swim, I think it’s the number of miles for your age. So, yeah, Kevin’s been able to achieve that, for I think 3-4, maybe 5 years, something like that. And I mean, it’s just incredible to think about it! One of the things we were talking about was what do you have to worry about? And he’s like, you know, you have to be concerned a little bit about ships, and you have to watch out for sharks, and I’m like, holy shnikes, that’s crazy! But he’s like, you know, doing something like that, starting your day that way, it sure puts, you know, sitting in a board room in perspective. It sure puts dealing with a grumpy client in perspective. He’s like, this is nothing, compared to keeping my bearing when I’m out in the middle of the ocean, you know? It, it is all about that, finding that, those things you are passionate about, finding ways to do it.


Zephan: Well, so let me ask you about kind of part of this 20% suck factor, but also, when you’re going from one extreme to the other, so for example, you know, one of my big dreams, at least for last year, was that I wanted to travel a ton. And I flew 25 flights across the country that I travel hacked for free, and saw 40 out of the 50 states. And so I accomplished, the goal, right?


Mitch: Right!


Zephan: But how do you go from such a high, like, that, to you know, when you’re in that sucky part? Like, what are some, maybe some things on a small scale, where you can kind of take a step back and look at it realistically? Because it’s almost bipolar in a sense. It’s like going from being surrounded by your friends and everyone singing Happy Birthday, to like, you know, you went to blow out the candles and lit everything on fire by accident, like, how do you go from one end of the spectrum to the other? Or try to stay at that happy medium, where its, like, my fear would be that you would keep your expectations low, which is a terrible thing to do! Like, why would you do that? You of course wanna hope for the best and be optimistic in any situation. What are some little things that you can do, to, you know, whether it’s embrace the 20% or even just keep yourself levelheaded throughout this whole spectrum?


Mitch: Absolutely! That’s a great question! I love that. And that is something that, you know, what’s interesting that people experience, and, you got an audience of high achievers, you got an audience of globe changers and people who wanna do big things, and, and, you know, that’s who I love to interact with and work with as well, and one of the things, especially with high-achievers, that you’ll find, is just that. They will set a course for a big dream, a big goal, whether it’s their career, or whether it’s something on the side- I love that goal of travel, and being able to see all the states, and all of those things, but in the midst of that, you’re gonna hit some challenges. You know, that’s a part of the journey, that’s the richness, all of that, but one the things I’ve found, especially when you’re in one of those low points, and I’m a simple guy, I have to boil things down to simple concepts and ways to be able to remember things, so, what when I’m in those moments, I have to think gratitude and latitude.


And what I mean by that is gratitude is, you know, gratitude is the, the body’s great antidepressant. It’s one of those things that a lot of people, you know, talk about gratitude and the power of gratitude, but it really is an antidote for worry, and stress, and all of those things even at those low points. To be able to look around and find something that you’re grateful for. To be able to find something that you can identify, whether it’s a relationship whether its Even being in the moment, I’m guessing with all of those flights, you probably had more than one or at least one canceled flight. Or maybe you got to, you know, your gate and they let you know that the plane didn’t come in so now you got to go all the way over to the other side of the airport all that stuff. You know, whether it’s just inconveniences, or, whatever, you know, still finding those things you can be grateful for. You know, being grateful that we’re in the age of airplanes. Like, God put me in a very specific place, I’m so grateful for the time that we’re in, because, I love an airplane.


My wife just flew to Australia. To think about making that trip, you know, by trip, or, whatever it would’ve taken years and year ago, right, I even fathom that stuff. So I’m very grateful for the time frame that I’m in. So gratitude is one of those things, and, and its not just enough to list it. Listing things that you’re grateful for does move the needle, it starts to release serotonin and dopamine, and those are kinds of things that actually help you to feel pleasure, help you to feel happy, they actually help to remember things more, to think more creatively, all of that. But if you really want to move the needle, don’t just write something down that you’re grateful for. Give yourself 10-20 seconds to really feel that gratitude. Whether it’s for something big, something small, whatever it is. Really feel that. So that’s the gratitude part of it. That also helps you be in the moment. Because the latitude part is about kind of getting yourself to a higher-visioning point. Kind of going from where you’re at to allowing to that 15000 ft or that 30000 ft view, to both remind yourself, “Hey! I put myself in this situation by wanting to, you know, by setting this goal of traveling the globe, or, I put myself in this situation.” There were times that I was building our business on the side, you know, working really, really late, or only sleeping a couple of hours, and I could find myself almost put my grumpy pants on, because I was tired! But I’d have to remind myself, “I’m doing this for a reason, right?”


It was kind of that vision, but also within that, also be looking forward. Being able to say, what am I looking forward to? and even when you’re in the midst of going after a big goal, like going after all of that travel, to even give yourself that, the ability to remind yourself why you’re doing it, but also giving yourself that ability to say, what’s next? 2015 was the year of travel, what do I want 2018 to be? Because gratitude is powerful, but when we talk about latitude, one of things of latitude that’s really powerful is anticipation. And anticipation is one of those powerful emotions that we can feel. It also produces all sort of good chemical reactions in your body as well, so giving yourself the chance to say, all right, 2015 this is, you know, my goal is travel, 2018, what do I want my goals to be in 2018? And giving yourself a chance to vision, a chance to feel that anticipation, and really combining the gratitude and the latitude are, I’ve found, some of those things that really help to life you out of those low places that just come, when you go after those big dreams and big goals.


Zephan: Oh, totally, and it’s funny that you bring up the whole airplane situation, because in August of 2015, I flew from my home in Maryland to Los Angeles, for, you know, my full-time company is a video production company, and so I’m flying out there for a client, and within like 3 hours of getting there, all of my accounts got hacked—my iPhone, my Macbook. Everything is wiped remotely, locked, all my credit cards got shut down, everything. And I was so grateful that I kind of remembered my password to get into my Sky Miles account and book an overnight flight back home. And get home to take care of it.


And in this whole race to just like, fight or flight, and get home, I didn’t realize that the only seat that was left on the plane, which was the only one I had booked, was a first class seat. And so, this whole time, I’m just like, freaking out, I got to get home, I got to get the credit cards figured out, you know, there’s no money left, it’s all gone, and I get on the plane and they’re just like, “Do you want a hot towel?” And I’m like, “You don’t know how much I want a hot towel.” And then like I get a warm meal, and I’m just like, this is amazing, and I’m in the lie-flat bed, and then they come around, “Do you want a warm cookie?” And I’m just like, “You don’t even realize how much I want a warm cookie.”


Mitch: “I want a blankie!”


Zephan: Right? Right?


Mitch: That is awesome It is so true! And it is those, those moments that you do have to find it, and not in some sort of Pollyanna, rainbows, butterflies, I’m sure you were running through the meadows singing a lovely song, but it still allows you to get back to work, you know, and engage in all of those things. So I, I don’t love the story being hacked, but I do love the story of you overcoming it.


Zephan: Well I think the important thing to take away is like you know you have to choose to see that, right. I could’ve just as easily gotten on the plane and talking to the person next to me, and said, oh my god, I’ve been hacked, this is the worst thing ever. I could have perpetuated that, or you know, you can kind of pause for a second, sit back, and say, holy crap, I’m on a plane, in first class, I just got a hot towel, I’m getting a warm meal tonight, I’m getting warm cookies, like, I’m getting taken care of at a time where everything around me is not getting taken care of.


Mitch: Yeah, absolutely. I love it. And it is and it really is giving yourself that permission to feel gratitude, cause I think that, you know, part of your brain is gonna fight that a little bit. Your brain has a pretty good B.S. monitor, right? It’s always looking for crap that it can just throw out, right? And that’s why a lot of time people are a huge fan of affirmations. There’s some power in affirmations, there’s no doubt, but the challenge with affirmations is if you start to say, “You know, you’re in that situations, going, I’m happy, I’m healthy, I’m here, I’m happy, I’m healthy, I’m here,” your internal brain B.S. monitor is gonna go, “[spitting noise]. Nope! I can give you a thousand reasons why I’m not happy, why I’m not healthy, and why I’m not here.”


All of those things, right? But if you actually kind of, again, go after give yourself that permission to even look for “Hey, what’s something I’m grateful for in this moment?” What’s something small but significant that I’m grateful for in this moment. It’s interesting, your brain what’s interesting about your brain is that it has that powerful B.S. indicator or monitor to be able to say, nope, that’s crap, I don’t believe that, right? But you give your brain a question, your brain almost can’t help but solve, start to dig in. That’s why I always say, don’t just say, well, you know, I’m grateful for blah blah blah to actually give yourself the chance to say, “What am I grateful for in this moment?”


Zephan: Yeah.


Mitch: And then allow yourself, let allow your brain to search it, our brains are kind of like Google, like you plug in a search term, it can’t help but solve, it starts to search it, right? And it’s that, to be able to say, what am I grateful for in this moment. Or eve in those low times, to be able to say, what’s something small, but significant, that I’m grateful for in this moment? And it’s amazing, what your brain might come up with? Now if your brain is like mine, you know, I love to be an optimistic, positive person, but there’s also a grumpy old man deep down in my heart, my brain, right? So sometimes I might ask that of myself and go (spitting sound) I can give you a thousand things I’m not grateful for! No, not the question, right? It’s what am I grateful for in this moment. And to really sit in that, and then allow yourself to feel some of it as well.


Zephan: Yeah absolutely. Well, I wanna shift gears just a little bit here as we round this off, you know, we heard a good amount of you know how you got started, and what what happened there, and then we had a great conversation here about gratitude, and you know a lot of things that I think people tuning in should really put into place for this year, I love to just kind adjust round everything off and hear a little bit about like dream think do, where this has brought you, and just like catch us up to speed on where we are today.


Mitch: Absolutely. I love it so thank you for that. Well Dream Think Do, obviously, is the name of my podcast, and been wildly blessed- I mean you’ve got an incredibly list of people that you’ve had on, and I’ve been really blessed, we actually launched at the same time, I remember being on the New And Noteworthy—


Zephan: Oh, no way!


Mitch: Yeah, on that list together, which is kind of fun to think about, and I was like, man, that dudes rocking it, I felt that holy jealousy around what you were doing, man it was great. But yeah, I’ve been able to interview people like Brandon Birchard, and Louis Howes, and Jeff Goins, was just recently on the show, and what you know what’s exciting about having a podcast and if people don’t have a podcast you know, obviously there’s a lot of great podcasts out there, but one of the best reasons to have a podcast is to have an excuse to reach out to your heroes. You know, I just saw a TED talk—someone shot me a TED talk said “You’re gonna love this TED talk,” and I watch it and it’s got, I don’t know, a few million views, and it’s fascinating, right?


And now, with this podcast, I just, my next thing after I enjoy something like that is to think, “I’m gonna invite them to be on Dream Think Do!” And so I did I said in the email there over in England sent an email and invited them. They got back with their team member, well their team member got back to me, said, “Yeah, Margaret would love to be on!” So, gonna be, you know, interviewing this person, so I love having that excuse.


But Dream Think Do is really all about helping people dream bigger, think better, and do more, do more of what they were put on the planet to do, and, Dream think do is hopefully a bit of a catch phrase, but it’s also something I stole—which I feel really good about. Because basically Dream Think Do I stole it from the scientific method. And I really love the scientific method, it’s, as a recovering perfectionist, the scientific method really helped set me free, a little bit on that so you know when you think about the scientific method, it’s all about first discovering, clarifying what you want to prove or disprove, right? Then you build a hypothesis, you think through a plan, you make a best guess on how something’s gonna go, and they you experiment. And you learn from that experiment, and then you adjust and evaluate.


Well that’s Dream Think Do. The dreaming is to say, “What is it that I want to do, or achieve or experience?” Then the thinking is, being able to say, all right, what’s my plan, how do I wanna go about that, and I really do believe in separating those two, because we start thinking. We start planning too early, we’ll stifle what’s created. You know, if the Wright brothers—they said “We wanna fly!” Right? They owned a bike shop. I love the Wright brothers for a lot of different reasons, but one of the main reasons is they owned a bike shop! That’s like, that’s my family, yo! And if they would have said, you know, if they would’ve moved into planning too early they would’ve known they never had enough money. I mean, there were other people in the world that were way more funded, more well-funded than them, but they said, “No, we wanna fly!” And to be able to say, “How could we do that?” and all of that.


So to be able to Dream Think Do, to be able to separate those things out, to really dream first, think second, and then do, take action, start to experiment. So, I love finding more and more people that are doing that, and interviewing them for the show, and though leaders, globe changers, people you’ve never heard of. I’ve just interviewed an amazing gal who’s actually in the Yukon—like it gets to below 100 degrees below zero where she lives, but she and a group of people helped to create a makerspace in this little village that they’re in, and we talked about how do you do that? How do you get everybody on board in a place where, you know, there’s significant times a year where they only have 2-3 hours of daylight for crying out loud! Talk about a place where community is needed, but, you know, rarely seen in a lot of these places. So we talk about things like that. So I love interviewing people.


So that’s what Dream Think Do is, you know, the podcast, but it’s also really our mission. And so I get to do that through the podcast, but I also get to that through my speaking, and through coaching, and through some of our coach programs that we have as well.


Zephan: Very cool. So, I mean, obviously we can go on for the next three hours—


Mitch: Yeah, that would be awesome! But I don’t know if everybody would like that.


Zephan: Yeah, and I know that we’re catching up later this week, but what is the best place for people to, you know, should they go to the podcast, is there a website they should check out? How can they kind of keep track of everything with you and stay up to date— Oh, up to date. My accent changed there…


Mitch: Just went British, or Australian! I’m not sure what that was, there’s that book launch lag!


Zephan: Man, told you it was that book lag.


Mitch: Yes, they can go to mitchmatthews.com or dreamthinkdo.com and that will allow you to kind of find out more about what we’re doing but it’ll also allow grab all the episodes of our podcast. So, if you want to get more specific, you can go to mitchmatthews.com/itunes. Or just even go to iTunes, and just search Dream Think Do and we’ll be right there. But I’d love, love to have people come check it out, be a part of the Dream Think Do community as well. I know you’re, you’re inspiring people, and I think that we’re inspiring the same people in different ways. So I’d love to share our community.


Zephan: Yeah, definitely. And I know that you are working on a book so something for people to look for, too, in the near future here. Mitch has a book coming out soon, and so definitely, and I’m sure that if you’re following over on the podcast and things like that you’ll find out when that is becoming available. But, Mitch, thanks so much for spending time with me today, and, this is has been awesome, and can’t wait to keep in touch, and chat more.


Mitch: I’m forward to that! I’m looking forward to this being the first of many conversations. Keep bringing the awesome, though, Zeph, You’re just doing amazing work and again congratulation on the book launch, too.


Zephan: Thanks so much!